Ahmed: Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh Master Abdul Wahid: Wa Alaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh Sawal: Abdul Wahid bhai, abbu ne mujhe hukm diya hai ke apne Urdu magazine ke liye aap se kuch baatein karun takay dawat ka kaam karne walon ke liye kaar amad ho. Jawab: Raat mujhe bhi Maulana Sahib ne kaha tha ke Ahmed aap se kuch baatein karenge. Sawal: Aap apna khandaani tareef karaien. Jawab: Hamara khandaan Assam se hai, Guwahati mein hamare dada angrezi door mein afsar the, sthana Gout se hamara talluq hai, mere pitaji bhi sail tax afsar the, Bengal ke alag alag shehron mein rehte rahe, aakhir mein Kolkata mein ghar bana liya tha aur wahi par unka inteqal hua, mera purana naam Sanjiv Asthana tha, main gyarah September 1959 ko Maldah mein paida hua, shuru ki taleem bhi Maldah mein hui, school ke baad college ka number aya to hamare walid ka Kolkata transfer ho gaya aur wahi meri taleem hui MSc, BEd kiya aur sarkari higher secondary school mein science ka teacher hua, baad mein ek degree college mein lecturer bana aur aaj bhi Allah ke shukr se science padhata hoon, meri shadi bhi ek parhe likhe gharane mein ab se choudah saal pehle hui, mere sasur sahab ek college ke principal hain aur meri ahlia bhi ek convent school mein padhati hain. Sawal: Apne qubool-e-Islam ke waqiyay ko zara tafseel se batayein. Jawab: Bheshti sarkari mulazim ke hum logon ko khandaan ke ghoomne ke liye kharch diya jata hai, ab se nau saal pehle 1998 mein hum South ke picnic tour par apni biwi bachon ke sath gaye jate waqt do roz ke liye Bhopal mein break journey kar ke Bhopal dekhne ka bhi program tha. Bhopal hum utre ek taxi station se kiraye par li, mujhe ittefaq se bukhar hogaya, taxi wale se kisi munasib hotel ka pata maloom kiya usne kaha ke thode fasle par achhe aur saste hotel ka main intezam karadeta hoon. Taxi wala ghalt aadmi tha aur hamein lekar ek hotel gaya, mujhse kaha aap hotel mein kamra pasand karlein main hotel ke andar gaya kamra pasand karliya mujhse taxi wale ne kaha ke main bachon aur saman ko lata hoon aapko bukhar horaha hai aap kamra mein aram karlein. Gaadi mein jakar meri ahlia se kaha ke aap bachon ko lekar chalein main gaadi se saman utar kar lata hoon meri qismat ki kharabi kehwiya khubi keh safar mein kabhi bhi kisi taxi wale ko karata to hamesha gaadi ke number note karna adat tha, magar bukhar ki tezi mein mujhe number note karna yaad nahi raha. Taxi wala taxi lekar saman samet farar hogaya, sara saman kapre, purse ke paanch sau rupe ke ilawa ticket bhi gaadi mein the, bukhar ki halat mein is hadse par anjaani sheher mein jo guzri bayan nahi kar sakta. Bukhar ki shiddat mein main hotel se utra, police tha nah pata laga ya police mein report ki, thana walon ne tasalli bohot di magar shaam tak hum log thana mein pade rahe magar koi karwai nahi ki bukhar ke liye store se dawai li bukhar kuch utra wapsi ke liye railway station pohanche ghar phone kiya magar tez barish aur silaab ki wajah se Bengal ki linein kharab ho rahi thi phone nah ho saka. Jhansi jane wali ek gaadi tayyar thi baghair ticket is mein baith gaye reservation ke dabbe mein ticket check karne ke liye aya hum se penalty samet ticket lene ke liye israr karne laga main ne apnaPura taaruf karaya aur apne saath jo haadsa pesh aya tha bataya to woh narm hua usne kaha aap fikar na karein Jhansi se kathaar ki gaadi foran milegi aap woh pakar lein mere jaan ne wale kayi TC is mein mil jayenge mein un se kah doon ga woh aap ko apne saath baghair ticket hi le jayenge. Kathaar mein aap koi surat bana lena meri jaan mein jaan aayi ke chalo kathaar tak jane ki surat bani, Bhopal se chalte hi mujhe phir bukhar hua, bukhar iss qadar tez hua ke mera pura jism kanpne laga mujhe haathon paon ke hilne ka dorra sa hone laga, kisi tarah Jhansi pohanchay magar mera haal itna kharab tha ke mein aage safar ke laiq nahi tha majbooran faisla kiya ke Jhansi ke kisi sarkari hospital mein dakhil hojana chahiye. Jhansi station par utar kar hospital maloom kiya aur kisi tarah auto rickshaw kar ke hospital pohanchay. Doctor ne bataya ke dimaghi bukhar hai, agar ilaaj mein der ki to aap be hosh hosakte hain. Mein ne kaha aap hamein aid mat karlein aur ilaaj shuru karein dawa waghera ke paise agar zaroorat pade gi to hum ghar se rabta karenge, das roz hospital mein rahe aur hospital ke doctor ne tars kha kar hamare khane ka nazam bhi hospital se kar diya. Inn dino mein meri ahlia humare aur apne ghar phone karne ki koshish karti rahi magar koi rabta na ho saka, tabiyat kuch sambhli to doctors ne hamein safar ki ijazat di. Hum log station pohanchay to ittefaq se woh TC jo hamein Bhopal se laye thay hamein station par mil gaye, unki train do ghante late hui thi, mein ne unko pehchan kar un se darkhwast ki ke woh hamein kathaar ki gaadi mein sawar karadein woh becharay apne saathiyo ko talash karne lagay, woh mil gaye. Do ghante baad train jane wali thi, unhone hamein train mein sawar kar diya, rasta mein mujhe bukhar aya aur mere jism ki halat phir issi tarah hogayi, kapkapi ka dorra musalsal hone laga, kitni mushkil se kathaar tak ka safar pura kiya bayan karna mushkil hai. Kathaar bohot si gaadiyan Kolkata ke liye thi, gaadiyan ayi to TC se baat ki magar koi bhi hamein baghair ticket saath le jane par razzi na hua meri jeb mein terah rupaye bache thay, bachon ne raat se khana bhi nahi khaya tha, bhook se bezaab bachay rone lage to mein ne biwi se terah rupaye ka khana lanay ko kaha woh daal bhaat lay kar ayi biwi bachon ne khana khaya. Station par faqiron ki tarah hafton ke meelay kapron mein daal bhaat khate dekh kar mein bohot roya bas mere ronay par mere malik ko tars aya aur nah sirf yeh ke mujhe is imtehan aur mushkil se nikalnay ka faisla farmaya balkay marnay ke baad mujhe dozakh se bachanay ka faisla bhi inshaAllah inn ansoo'on par kiya. Sawal: Daal bhaat khate dekh kar ronay se is ka kya matlab? Jawab: Haan matlab hai, mein plate form par jahan layta tha mere bachay samne khana kharay thay bukhar ki tezi se mein karah raha tha aur pura jism hal raha tha meri sari bimariyon ke masiha ko mere malik ne mere samne la betha ya, aap ke abba Maulana Kaleem Sahab Bahar ke ek safar se wapas arahe thay aur unko kathaar se Rajdhani Express pakarni thi. Gaadi chaar ghante late thi jo log Maulana ko station chorane aaye thay unko train se jana tha Maulana Sahab ne unko zor dekar wapas kar diya aur khud gaadi ke intezar mein plate form par baith gaye mere samne bench par aakar baithay mujhe karahate hue unhone dekha woh mere qareeb aaye to mein ro raha tha. Maulana Sahab ne mujh se karahne ki wajah maloom ki mein to iss haal mein nahi tha ke kuch keh sakoon, meri biwi ne apna dukhra sunaya, Maulana Sahab hamari pareshani sun kar ro diye. Apne saathi ko saman sambhal kar station se bahar gaye aur store se dawa laye aur saathi se chai stall se doodh mangaya aur doodh ke sath apne haath se nikal kar dawa khilayi aur paanch roz ki dawa hamein di. Thori deer mein mere jism ke dard ko bohot aaram hua, mujh se bole bhai sahab mujhe bohot sharam a rahi hai magar meri majboRi hai mujhe aap se request (darkhwast) karni hai ke aap hamare khooni rishtay ke bhai hain, aap ki jagah hamare saath bhi yeh hadsa hosakta hai. Aap dohazar rupe mujh se qarz le lein, qarz iss liye keh raha hoon ke aap bade aadmi hain, aap ko baranah lagay, warna mera dil dohazar rupe aap ko bheent (tohfa) dene ko chahta hai, please yeh aap qabool kar lein, mein bayan nahi kar sakta ke mera kitna ajeeb haal tha mere dil mein khayal aya ke yeh koi aishduut (ghaibi farishta) hai jo ek ajnabi ke saath yeh mamla kar raha hai. Kitne logon ko apna haal sunaya, bas taxi wale ki burai karne aur haye wai karne ke siwa kisi ko khayal nahi aya aur yeh ghair mazhab ke musalman kis andaz se raqam de rahe hain jaise de nahi rahe hon, bheek mang rahe hain. Mein ne un se kaha ke hamein peson ki itni zaroorat hai hum kaise manaa kar sakte hain magar aap pehle apna pata dedijiye takay ghar pohanch kar yeh raqam money order kar dein. Molana sahib ne kaha ke paise to rakhain, abhi pata bhi likh kar deta hoon aur apne saathi se kaha master ji un ko pata likh kar dedena aur un ke kaan mein aahista se kuch kaha, woh uth kar gaye aur bachon ke liye ice cream aur kele le kar aye, bachon ne lene se manaa kiya to hum ne bachon se kaha le lo beta yeh aap ke asal uncle hain. Molana sahib se mein pata likhne ko kehta raha aur woh taalte rahe, abhi likhte hain tab likhte hain mein ne zor diya keh kehne lage bhai sahib aap talash karenge to hum mil jayenge, kya aap apne khooni rishtay ke bhai ko bhi talash nahi kar sakte? Itni deer mein hamari gaadi aayi, ticket un peson mein se molana sahib ke saathi ne laakar de diya tha, hamein sawar karaya mein ne pata ke liye kaha to molana sahib ke saathi master Jamshed sahib ne apne bag se jaldi ek kitaab nikaal kar di ke woh molana sahib ki kitaab hai, uss par neeche hazrat ka pata likha hai. Din ka waqt tha, razor vishan ke dabbe mein khali dekh kar hum log baith gaye aur pata dekhne ke liye kitaab nikaali. Kitaab ka naam tha "Aap ki Amaanat Aap ki Seva Mein" kitaab ke shuruaat mein do shabde molana Wasii sahib ke likhe hue the, molana sahib ka goya un ke andar ka taaruf tha kyunki hum iss farishta safat Maseeha ko dekh kar aaye the ek ek lafz dil mein utar gaya. Bukhar ke bawajood hilte hilte mein ne poori kitaab parhi phir biwi ko parhne ko di unhone bhi ek baar mein poori parhi, mujh se kehne lage ke molana sahib agar yeh kitaab humain station par dete to acha tha, beech mein chhodne ko dil nahi chaha. Dawa ki doosri khuraak mein ne rail mein li, dawa ne jadoo ka asar kiya aur Kolkata pahunchne tak aisa laga jaise mein bilkul theek hogaya hoon, mein aur meri biwi aap ki amanat ke ek ek lafz ke shikar hogaye aur sachai aur mohabbat ke paigham ke samne apne ko bebas samajh chuke the, mein ne Kolkata utar kar apni biwi se kaha meri tabiyat kafi achi hai, mera dil chahta hai ke ghar jaakar paise le kar aaj hi Mazaffarnagar chala jaoon aur kuch samay (waqt) molana ke saath guzaroon. Biwi ne kaha dawa poori kar lein us ke baad jaldi chale jaye, hum ghar pohnche, tabiyat bilkul theek hogayi, biwi ne kaha pehle paise money order kar dijiye aur phir kuch roz baad chhuti le kar milne chale jaye, money order karne ke liye kitaab talash ki pata likh lein gay magar na jane shaitan ne woh kitaab kahan chhupa di, do roz hum dono ek ek cheez ulte palte rahe magar kitaab nahi mili. Mujhe yeh yaad tha ke molana sahib ka naam Muhammad Kaleem hai, magar mein Mazaffarpur ki bajaye Mazaffarpur zila kar raha tha ek do logon se maloom kiya unhone bataya ke Mazaffarpur UP mein nahi balkay Bihar mein hai, bechaini ke haal mein Mazaffarpur Bihar ka ticket banwaya ek roz pehle ek UP ke aadmi se mulaqat hui mein ne un se maloom kiya ke UP mein koi zila Mazaffarpur bhi hai? Unhone kaha ke wahan Mazaffarnagar hai Mazaffarpur nahi, Mazaffarnagar sun kar mujhe yaad aya ke yeh pata sahi hai unhone bata ya.keh Mazhar Nagar ki koi gari daair yakt nahi hai, aapko Delhi ya Saharanpur jaana pare ga wahan se Mazhar Nagar ke liye bus ya train mil sakti hai, maine Delhi ka reservation karaya aur 27 October ko Delhi aur Delhi se Mazhar Nagar pohuncha station par ek miyaanji mile, maine kaha ke Mazhar Nagar mein aap Molana Kaleem Sahab ko jaante hain? Unhone kaha woh Mazhar Nagar mein nahi rehte balkay aapko Khatoli lekar wahan se pohuncha hoga, station se bus adday pohunchay Khatoli ki bus mein sawar hue to mere barabar mein ek nojawan Molvi Sahab bathe thay unse taaruf hua to maloom hua ke Khatoli madrasa mein rehte hain reservation ke liye Mazhar Nagar aaye thay unse maloom hua ke Molana Sahab to Khatoli nahi hain Punjab ke safar par gaye hue hain unke saath Khatoli pohunchay, Molana Sahab ke ghar pohunchay to maloom hua ke aaj raat tak pohunchenge intezaar ka maza liya, Molana Sahab raat ko ek baje pohunchay main jaga raha tha mulaqat hui Molana Sahab foran pehchan gaye mujhe theek dekh kar bohot khush hue aur subah ko mulaqat ke liye keh kar ghar mein chale gaye. Aglay roz subah 9 baje mulaqat hui maine woh paisay pesh kiye Molana Sahab bohot zor dete rahe ke unko aap bheent mein qubool kar lein to mujhe zyada khushi hogi, aapne sirf yeh paisay dene ke liye itna lamba safar kiya bohot ziyadti ki yeh paisay to hum khud aakar wasool lete, Molana Sahab hans kar bole dekhiye aapne talash karna chaaha to talash bhi kar liya, baghair patte ke talash kar liya maine kaha aap ko kaise maloom hai ke hum se patte yani kitaab kho gayi thi? Molana Sahab ne kaha kaisi kitaab? Asal mein hum ne patte dena hi nahi chaaha, maine bataya ke aap ke saathi 'Aap ki amanat aap ki siwah mein' gari mein chalte chalte pakra gaye thay woh hum ne parh bhi li aur humein shikar bhi kar gayi aur ghar na jane kaise kho gayi, ab maine poora haal bataya Molana Sahab bohot khush hue, Molana Sahab ne farmaya ke aap ki amanat parh kar aap ne kya faisla kiya maine kaha aap ka ban kar aaye hain, aap jo chahe kar lein ya chhod dein. Molana Sahab ne kaha mera bannay se to kaam bannay wala nahi jis ne paida kiya hai us ka bannay se kaam chalega maine kaha isi liye to aap ke paas aaye hain, Molana Sahab ne kaha kalma aap ne parh liya? Hum ne kitaab mein to parh liya aap bhi parhwa dijiye, Molana Sahab ne 29 October ko saade no baje humein kalma parhwaya mera naam Abdul Wahid rakha Molana Sahab ne mujh se kaha kya bhabi ne bhi yeh kitaab parhi hai? Main ne kaha ke unhone teen baar parhi hai, Molana Sahab ne kaha ke unka kya irada hai? Hum ne jo irada kiya hai woh hamare saath hain. Kuch kitaabein Molana ne mangwa kar humein diin, ek roz qayam karne ke baad Kolkata waapas hua Molana Sahab ke mashware ke mutabiq Kolkata ke markaz gaya wahan Ali Garh ki ek jamaat aayi thi us ke saath chalees roz guzaare Alhamdulillah yeh chalees roz hamare liye bohot mufeed rahe namaz bhi mukammal yaad kar li aur zaroori baatein maloom hogayi. Sawal: Aap ki ahlia sahiba ka kya hua? Jawab: Alhamdulillah Phalt le jakar maine kalma parhwaya woh bohot khush hui. Sawal: Islam qubool kar ke aap ko kya mehsoos hua? Jawab: Islam milne ke baad main bayan nahi kar sakta kitni khushi hui, ab main is taxi wale ko dua deta hoon ke agar woh mera samaan nahi lootata to mera kya hota? Mere Allah ki rehmat ke qurban keh kya koodiyan lutwaakar hamare dil ki tijori iman ke khazane se bhar di, hum dono jab bhi baithte hain bas isi baat par shukr ada karte hain ke Allah aap ne hamara samaan lutwaya hamein iman ka maaldaar kar ne ke liye aur kufar o shirk ki maut se bachane aur shifa ata karne ke liye, waqai Ahmad Bhai.Y Allah ki rahmat ka koi kya andaza laga sakta hai!!! Sawal: Ek sawal zehan mein aata hai ke aap ko Abi ki hamdardi aur akhlaq ne zyada mutasir aur Islam ke qareeb kiya ya aap ki amanat ne ya Islam ki haqaniyat ne? Jawab: Ahmed bhai! Aisi musibat mein ajnabi ke saath Maulana sahib ki aisi hamdardi ne humein mutasir kiya magar hamare qabool Islam ki wajah woh hamdardi bani, bas is se yeh hua ke aisi be luth hamdardi se hamare dil mein Maulana ki hamdardi par itmad paida hua aur aap ki amanat ko humne apna hamdard aur suchay khair khwah ki baat samajh kar parha, qabool Islam ka zariya Islam ki haqaniyat aur insani fitrat se qareeb Tauheed aur Islami nazariya hua, hamdardi to log kitni karte hain kaun apna mazhab badalta hai hamare dil mein yeh khayal ke Islam ke haq ne ek insaan ko farishta bana diya woh Islam hamara bhi haq hai. Sawal: Ab aap bachon ki taleem ka kya kar rahe hain? Jawab: Ab mere bachay English medium mein parh rahe hain aur humne ek Maulana sahib ka tuition bhi laga rakha hai, bachay aur hum dono rozana raat ko Quran, deeniyat aur Urdu parh rahe hain. Sawal: Ghar walon ne aap ke Islam ki mukhalifat nahi ki? Jawab: Bohat zyada ki, jab kisi ne ki to humne use pura waqia bataya, pura waqia sun kar hamare chacha jo bohat zyada musalman hone se naraz the unhone kaha beta tumne bohat acha kiya aur kitab humein bhi dena. Mein ne aap ki amanat unko di, Maulana sahib ke mashwara se safar kar ke unke yahan gaya, raat ko do baje tak mein unki khushamad kar raha tha alhamdulillah do baje raat hi mein unhone kalma parha, alhamdulillah mere khandan ke pachaas se zyada log musalman ho chuke hain. Sawal: Armaghan ke qareen ke liye aap koi paigham dijiye. Jawab: Bohat mohabbat bhara dil ho, ambiya ki tarah baghair lalach ke, Islam jaisa haq hath mein hota to phir koi sakht se sakht aadmi aisa nahi jo Islam ka asir na ho, is liye humein insaniyat ka haq ada kar na chahiye. Mustafada zama nahi armaan, No. 2006 AD.